The Math and the Miracle

Guest: Maria Jackson 

For seven years, Maria Jackson did everything right and still kept getting knocked down. Three rounds of IVF. Loans taken out, paid off, and taken out again. A patient in her chair telling her she was too late to ever be a mother while she held it together until she reached her car. And one morning, a day after her birthday, she woke up certain she had lost the baby, and her first thought was how many shifts it would take to pay off the loan so she could try again.

In this episode, Maria shares the full arc of that journey and the version of herself it built. She walks through the moment everything looked like a massacre and the lunchtime ultrasound that changed everything, the church service where she finally surrendered, and the first Mother's Day that felt heavier than she expected. She also opens up about her career, trading 20 years in dentistry for a full reinvention into AI and business analytics, earning a master's degree full time with a one year old at home, and turning a brutal season of interview rejection into the fuel that got her where she is now.

This is a conversation about persistence that has receipts, about keeping the quiet promises you make to yourself, and about reframing every setback into a route forward. Maria's throughline says it all: she does not give up, she just finds another angle.

The episode closes, as every episode does, with the three signature questions:

1. What does the unbreakable advantage mean to you?

2. What did you have to let go of to become who you are today?

3. What do you still need to let go of to become who you want to be tomorrow?

About the guest: Maria Jackson spent two decades in dentistry, more than 15 of those years as a hygienist, before pivoting fully out of clinical work. Today she serves as a clinical advisor and CTO, supports product development for AI software startups, and helps dental professionals move from clinical roles into nonclinical careers. She is based in South Florida. Find her on LinkedIn and at Mariadentalai.com.

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Host: Misty Carson, MSHRM, founder of The Unbreakable Advantage Institute. Listen and connect at unbreakableadvantage.com, on YouTube and Instagram @unbreakableadvantage, and Misty Carson, MSHRM on LinkedIn.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:01

We've been through things that should have broken us. Trauma, loss, hardship. The kind that leaves a mark. But it also left something else. Something most people spend their whole lives trying to find. I'm Misty Carson, and it's time we stop surviving and start building with it. This is the Unbreakable Advantage. Maria, welcome to the Unbreakable Advantage. I am so grateful that you agreed to be on the show. So tell me a little bit about who you are, uh what you do, and uh your season in life.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

So my name is Maria. I am actually a dental hygienist by trade, but I ended up going back to school at some point in my career, and I decided to pivot completely and get out of clinical. And now I work with startup companies and AI software. I am a clinical advisor, uh CTO. I also help with product development as well as help dental professionals pivot from clinical roles to non-clinical roles like the ones I have at the moment.

SPEAKER_02 1:11

Yeah, that is a very big change from being in the chair to doing all of the AI and all of the business planning. How has that change been for you?

SPEAKER_01 1:22

It's definitely been different. Although I'm still in the dental field, which has been phenomenal because I've been able to use my experience and everything I know, and I just shifted gears, but it's been great because it's given me a whole other perspective in dentistry and a whole other role completely. I don't work with patients anymore, so I don't have that one-on-one, but I do work with developing teams and everything to do with like the back end of it. Um, so I still get to make a difference in the dental field, but not with patients directly, it's more indirectly.

SPEAKER_02 2:01

Yeah, that's a big change for sure. It's awesome to start something new and to realize that you can be really good at multiple things. So I love that you're stepping out and taking this new chapter. So, as you shared, you spent 20 years in dentistry and more than 15 of those years as a hygienist. But what gave you the courage to make the transition and to start something completely new? And when you got the courage, what did you have to let go of in that process to do it?

SPEAKER_01 2:31

So there's a lot that happened that made me think of the shift. Um, one of the things was I, you know, I struggled with IVF for many years, and then once I got pregnant, I thought, well, how is that gonna look like once I give birth to my baby? If I'm kind of stuck in the office from eight to five, eight to six, sometimes at seven. I've had jobs that I've been there till eight at night. So um it just made me realize I I have to make a change. Um, and then not only that, uh once I did become pregnant, it was really hard because I actually ended up struggling with carpal tunnel, um, which gave me a whole other perspective and appreciation for um the dental field. Because what if I can't do what I was born to do, like dentistry, and you know, what if this is a problem and you know, I go through surgery or whatever that may look like, and I just can't go back to clinics. So there was a lot of of that going on in my head, and um, the more I thought about it, the more I realized maybe this is the the time that I should start shifting um and growing. I also did feel at one point I had capped out of, you know, I I had been in dentistry for a long time and I kind of felt I wasn't growing anymore. And that's another reason that I wanted to make the shift. So at some point I went back to school full time while while I was a hygienist. I went full-time online and I finished my master's degree in in AI and business analytics.

SPEAKER_02 4:21

I love that. That is so impressive, and it is so hard to work full-time and have a child and go back to school. I have done the same, and it is so much pressure. You feel like you're on all the time, so I appreciate that. You mentioned in your last uh response that you had struggled with IVF, and we talked a little bit offline, you and I did, and the form that I have people fill out um to be a guest on the show. And I would say, based on your responses, the season that you felt really built you was the seven-year journey that you went through infertility. Um what did that season of your life demand from you day to day?

SPEAKER_01 5:09

You know, it's funny because you know, you you know what you went you went you went through, but um when you hear it, and I I think it just doesn't get old for me because every time I hear from somebody else, it it's just like a reminder uh of all those details. Um it was really hard because you show up for patients every day, and I felt like I did a really great job being there for my patients. I left all of my problems at the door. I think I'm really good at that. Um I kind of hide my feelings and I just kind of move on with the day. And you know, I went through three rounds of IVF. Um, and the reason why it took so long, it was because on and off, I there was huge loans that I I would take out in order to do it, and then I would have to pay it off, and then I would have to start again. And there was one office in particular that I eventually had to leave because I the very first time that I decided to do IVF, I was so excited because in my head I thought this is going to work, and I told everyone. I I did the big mistake, I think it was a mistake on my end to kind of just tell everybody, and I was trying to kind of put it out there so that it happens, and I didn't I didn't get pregnant, and then it was just super awkward because I still had to show up for patients, I still had to be a good um, you know, uh co-worker and still be present, but I still had all this baggage that I was just carrying throughout the whole day, and I ended up leaving the practice uh because I would have these like spurts of anger moments, and I said, I think I I need a change of scenery, not because the team wasn't phenomenal, because they were and we're all still really good friends, but because I needed a change of scenery and I kind of needed to kind of start again. And I kind of went to another office, then I did the whole process again multiple times, and this time I didn't tell anybody. Um, and it it was just really hard. It was hard because, and I can't imagine what people go through um when they have to go go through IVF or anything similar, where you kind of have to stay quiet and you kind of just carry that, and you still have to show up to work, you still have to be present, and you still have to, you know, do the best you can do with patience, you know, regardless of everything else that's going on.

SPEAKER_02 8:02

It's really interesting to hear you say, and and what I took away the most from what you just shared, and a lot of listeners out here can relate to this, is that regardless of what you're going through internally and regardless of your circumstances, you still decided every day to get up and show up and do your best for the people who were relying on you to uh fulfill your duties as a coworker, as a spouse, as a friend, as somebody just moving about in the world. And I think so many people can relate to that compartmentalization by just putting it in a box and putting it over here and then moving about your day, and then quietly breaking down on your own when no one's watching.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

Would you uh the way you put it? Yeah, there I can tell you of a specific moment that like absolutely broke me. Broke me. Um there's really kind people in the world, but then there's also very unkind people in the world, yeah, and you kind of have to just let it let it be. Um, there was this one particular patient that happened to ask me, Do you do you have kids? And I said, No, not yet. And she just kept crying and kept asking, like, so why don't you have kids? Like, are you married? Um, yeah, I'm married. Like, oh, so you just got married. I said, No, I've been married for some time. They're like, Oh, then like, and she just kept going on and on and on, and she just kept digging this huge hole, and I I didn't know how else to respond to her without giving her too much detail.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

And at one point, she said, you know, being a mother is like the best gift in the world. You you you really should like have kids because at this point, you know, you're really late in the game. You won't be able to have kids at all. Um, and I remember thinking, should I say something or should I just stay quiet and let it be? And I remember telling her, no, I'm not late. Um, as a matter of fact, there's a lot of people that um have kids in their in their mid-40s, late 40s, right? Um, and I was I was towards the end of my 30s, and um I said, I don't think it's too late, it's never too late. I said, It's just not my season. Um and I just kind of let that be. But I didn't cry until I got to my car. I held it all in throughout the day, and once I got to my car all the way home, I just like cried my eyes out, and I just it was horrible. And I just I had moments like that on and off throughout the seven years of trying that it was just really hard to uh maneuver or get through, but we got through it.

SPEAKER_02 11:10

Yes, you definitely did. A couple things to everybody listening out there, you never know what someone else is going through. So choose your words carefully. Uh, if somebody is trying to m re-maneuver a conversation, there is likely a reason that is none of our business, right? So I just want to put that out there as well. You shared something with me, and you hit on this a little bit earlier when you were speaking, that as a mom hit me super hard. You said during your pregnancy, in a moment when you thought you were losing your baby, your mind went straight to how many hours you would need to work off to work to pay off the IVF loan so you could try again. Walk us through that moment, and where do you think that response came from?

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Yeah, um I don't know why my head went there, but I remember it was a day after my birthday, June 14, and I wake up and I I just I just felt wet and I looked down and it was dark and I just saw this huge puddle in my bed, and as I get up, I just I feel just wet, and I remember saying, Oh no, and my husband turns on the light, and it was just looked like a massacre occurred. It was just so much blood, and I remember walking to the bathroom, and in that moment I I couldn't even cry.

SPEAKER_00 12:46

I wanted to, but I had just so many feelings, I was upset, I was sad, I was overwhelmed, and I remember thinking we were so close, so close, and after so long of trying, like we finally, finally got pregnant, and this is this is what I get, and I couldn't help but to think how unfair, you know, like I I've been wanting kids for so long, and there are people in the world that for whatever reason they just don't feel as blessed or grateful for their kids, and here I am trying and dumping all this money to be a mom, and this happens, and I remember taking a shower and I was still shocked. I still like it hadn't like really sunken in, and I remember as I was showering, I said, Okay, it it's not gonna do me any good if I just like harp on this moment, right?

SPEAKER_01 14:05

And just be angry. I just how do I get out of this? How what's the solution, right? So I remember thinking, oh my gosh, like we just swiped this huge like loan, and now I have to um I was trying to do math in my head and trying to figure out okay, I how many weeks is it gonna take, how many months is it gonna take for for me to be able to pay off this loan so that I can hop on on the next on the next cycle so that I can I can try this again because the good news is we still had three really good embryos that were frozen, which we didn't have before. So I was still trying to look at the light at the end of the tunnel, although it was like very, very narrow. And I, you know, I I I showed up to work the next day. Um, and on the drive to work, that's when I really like balled my eyes out. Um and I I just I was hyperventilating, I couldn't breathe, and you know, I ended up going to work, I pulled my doctor in and my office manager. And at the time, those are the two people that I had decided to tell because there's a lot of appointments that take place before, during, and after uh when you do IVF. So I'm like, I I don't think I could have kept that a secret without feeling overwhelmed. So they knew the whole process um and they were very understanding. But when I got there, I remember telling them the whole story, and I'm just hyperventilating and crying. And I remember my doctor, the owner said, I think you should go home. I said, No, I'm not gonna go home because they like there's the solution would not be like crying, going back home. Like, I need to work, I need to pay off everything. And I just need 10 minutes to put myself together. And I remember they they did Huddle, they did all that, they told people, like, you know, Marie is just going through something, and you know, just give her a minute, whatever. And that during lunchtime, I ended up getting an appointment. I got an ultrasound, and to my surprise, the little baby was like blinking. Oh, and I couldn't, I could have it. The baby was only like a month actually, because it was IVF, it was like a month and a half, and um that another moment of like just hyperventilating and crying because I couldn't believe it. I just couldn't believe it. But that was kind of like my thought process through the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

That's so amazing. There are so many women out there who are listening, and I shared with you that I didn't have an IBF experience, but I had lost, had several miscarriages. And my last one, I was in my 20-somethings week, at 24, 25 week, somewhere around there. And I I went through something similar, woke up, middle of the night, pain, drove myself to the hospital, and they told me they couldn't stop what was happening, the natural progression of things. Um, and then I I believe I shared they then put you in the OB floor so you can hear all the other new moms and babies crying while you wait for surgery to, you know, to take out the rest of what has already been taken from you, uh, which is really difficult. What I hear in this moment when you share in so many families, men included, are gonna understand the pain of going through this and wanting a child so much is the incredible amount of resilience that you had. That the determinedness that you had that you were going to be a mom, come hell or high water, it was happening. You didn't care how, you didn't care what it took, you knew that it was meant for you, and you were gonna trans like go over any bridge that was required of you to get there, and and that is so admirable. I just want to thank you for sharing for being vulnerable and talking about that. Um so was there a moment during all of this when you realized that you're not the same Maria that you used to be?

SPEAKER_01 18:23

I think once I I think there were two moments. Um when I when I gave birth and I actually had my child in my hands, I I think it took me months until I actually accepted the fact that I was a mom. It was weird. It was a very, very weird feeling. And Mother's Day was also weird. Um, I remember my first Mother's Day feeling I almost not that I didn't deserve it, but I just felt so emotional and so bad for all the other moms like on the other side, right? Like here I am finally on the other side, uh, other side of things, and there's still a lot of people that I knew that were struggling and they weren't there, and it was just really hard for me to celebrate and feel happy for myself for the first time because I still was so wrapped up in all those thoughts, and I I really think it was some type of PTSD, but that was one moment that I realized, man, I I I went through a lot, and I can't believe that I just was very, very persistent and very determined. I think the second moment was when I went back to school. One thing is going back going to school when you don't have as many uh you know responsibilities. Another thing is going to school with a family, with I had my one-year-old at the time when I decided to go back to school. And I I remember thinking the first few weeks, every week, I'm like, I'm not gonna do this, I'm just gonna back out. I'm like, no, I'm just I can't. Like, I I I might as well just go through it. And I remember every semester feeling overwhelmed, but it got easier. And I remember when I graduated, this accomplishment felt so different than all my other degrees before because I was juggling so much more, so there was a much bigger appreciation, and I got to learn more about myself then after I graduated. Um, so those are the two moments I would say that I knew this is not the same, Maria, and I love myself for it because I powered through. I powered through, and I am I am the way I am, and I'm grateful for all the experiences I've I've received because I wouldn't be the person I am today if it wasn't for it.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

I love that perspective so much, and this is everything I'm building is on this premise that without these really difficult, tough, adverse situations that we go through, the way you show up and the person that you become by not allowing circumstances to uproot or upend what your end goal is, there's nothing that can replace that kind of growth as a person, and there's nothing that can replace that new uh vision you see of yourself when you're looking in the mirror. You're like, holy shit, I can do hard things. And not just as a Mantra, but you have the record to prove it. You can literally look back and be like, that would have broke most people. And here I am standing triumphant with my baby, with my degree, with my new job, my new career. It's amazing. Super, super awesome.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Yeah, I'm super grateful. I'm grateful for all of it.

SPEAKER_02 22:22

So during all of those moments, we talked about the new version that you became. But when was the moment when you you said, Holy crap, I do not give up? Like if you knock me down, I'm gonna stand up and it's gonna happen again. Like I'll just keep coming till we're 20,000 rounds in if that's what it takes.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

I want to say, like a few people, I I I guess you don't realize like what you go through because you see it from your lens, but I've had a few people tell me that know me really well, that have known me for a very long time, tell me I everything you put your mind to, you really do everything you say you're going to do, you absolutely do. And I I think it's not until I heard it out loud that I realized, oh yeah, like I I guess I never saw it that way. I just, you know, I really want something. I'm going to try to figure out whatever angle, you know, even with the pregnancy, if I wouldn't have been able to get pregnant, I I was already considering adoption. I was I I don't know how or when. I just knew however that looked like, you know, it might have not been the way I had thought in my head, but I was going to become a mom regardless. So not only those moments show me that, but also when people tell me, I've noticed everything you you say and you put out there, like it happens. Yeah, but there's a lot of time and effort that comes into that, you know?

SPEAKER_02 24:03

Yeah. There is something so beautiful about keeping promises that we make to ourselves. And that's really what it comes down to. When we say that we follow through with our word and we follow through on things or goals, it's just one small promise kept at a time. I mean, that's how we get there. And I really appreciate that you said a little while ago so many times you wanted to quit. Because it's not having those feelings. Everybody goes through that where they want to take a step back, they want to throw in the towel. It's the fact that you don't. And people beat themselves up for having those feelings, but everybody feels that way. And anyone who says they don't is lying. Yeah, everyone goes through those moments where it would just be easier to lay down and cry and let something else come your way. Um so uh so so amazing. I just love your story so much, and so many people are gonna resonate with this. You used a phrase, and I I wanna talk about it, and I thought it was so beautiful. You said you're always reframing how you think so that you can use all those negative moments and turn them into something useful. When did you first notice you were doing that on purpose?

SPEAKER_01 25:26

I think when I it took me a while to actually pivot into the non-clinical role. That's the reason why I ended up getting a degree because I felt without the degree, I didn't feel like I was getting taken seriously. And I was angry. I was angry because I know what I know, and I didn't know why I wasn't getting hired, right? I I was going through all these interviews, interviews, and I was interviewing consistently when I tell you once or twice a week for months, and then even with my degree, almost every week I had an interview. I mean, the I still keep in touch with these companies, and uh I know some of them regret it, but you know, things happen for a reason.

SPEAKER_02 26:15

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

But I was I was very angry, and I wanted to throw in the towel. I I had to give myself a couple weeks to really think through is this really what I want? Because it doesn't seem like it's going my way, and it doesn't seem that I'm going to get where I want to get. And I thought, no, I this is what I want. So how do I make this happen? So I thought I'm gonna get a degree, I'm I'm going to show them that I am serious, and I'm going to make sure that they know they'll regret the ones that didn't hire me, they'll they'll regret their decision. I went back to school, and once I completed everything, I realized, yeah, I am very persistent. And no matter what the circumstance, I always, always try to see, okay, these are two options. I'm gonna go this way. If this the way doesn't work out, I'm gonna I'm gonna take another route because I somehow I need to get from point A to point B. However, that may look like, probably won't look like the way you intended to most times, yeah, but I will get there. And that's when I realized, yes, I I absolutely intentionally do refrain everything and whatever it takes, whatever it takes to get where I want to go.

SPEAKER_02 27:40

I love that. So looking back on the seven years that you went through, were you stuck or were you being built?

SPEAKER_01 27:50

I definitely was being built. Um I remember there was this one time when I was in church and our pastor had said, okay, you know, I know I I've read all of your prayer requests, and anyone who feels compelled to kneel down right there where you're at and pray, let's go ahead and take a moment. And I remember, and they don't do this often, it's very random. And for some reason, I mean I felt like they were talking to me, right? And I kneeled down and I remember just praying and bawling my eyes out. And I remember thinking, I surrender. Like I'm just going to let whatever this may look like, I am just going to let it be. Um, and I just want to make sure I am grateful for what I do have, and I just don't get stuck in this, you know, in this like negative space because I felt like many times I was very stuck in that space. And, you know, there was a lot of times I wanted to quit and I wanted to throw the towel, but somehow I ended up just staying strong and just keep pulling through.

SPEAKER_02 29:21

You definitely did. As people, the moment we start to have those thoughts, we immediately punish ourselves. We give ourselves no grace because we're like, oh, it quitting would be easier. Well, of course you're gonna have that thought because quitting is easier than continuing to go through the pain. But we also recognize logically that there's pain on the other side of quitting as well, because you're not gonna have the thing that you desire so much to have. And in your case, i having a child or finishing your degree would be the tune motivators. If we would just allow ourselves space and grace to recognize that those feelings are gonna happen and they're normal, it's what you do with those feelings. Do you stay there? And there's cried out. I was just shared last week. I had a not at church, although I do have had moments like that at church. I woke up and I was like, What the hell am I doing? What am I trying to build? Who do I think I am? And I ha I called a friend, I was sobbing, and I just hit I literally hit my knees in my bedroom and I just gave it all to God. I was like, You gotta take this, you gotta take this feeling away from me. And by the end of the day, I'd had so much love from the world, from strangers, from my circle, and the day started completely on the opposite end of where it ended. And I was like, of course I'm supposed to be doing this, right? This is but I I refuse to beat myself up for having moments, and and I think that's where a lot of people get stuck because once they have those feelings, they're like, oh well, that's it then, because if I really wanted it, I wouldn't be scared or this wouldn't be hard. And and I don't believe that's true. How do you feel about that, Maria?

SPEAKER_01 31:13

Yeah, I agree. I mean, we're all human, we're all going to feel at times like giving up, or at times where you just need you need a moment, right? And it's okay, but like you said, it's what you do with it that changes everything and could really make you pivot, and the outcome can be completely different.

SPEAKER_02 31:38

Another thing that people in my experience, and I also went through this, and this is another thing you wrote when you had shared your story with me that I thought about all night. Uh, you mentioned the tortoise and the hare. You said the feeling that everyone else was hitting milestones and you were standing in place. And for someone who's listening today who's three years into their own slow season, what would you say to them directly?

SPEAKER_01 32:05

I mean, people tell you this all the time, right? And it's really hard when you're in it and you're in the thick of it, because I know I was in the thick of it, and I just saw everyone having baby showers and babies, and they were on their first and second and third babies, and here I am still trying, and I just feel older and older. And it's it can be very depressing and unmotivational, right? But you have to really I think um just be grateful for where you're at and really focus on your lane because your story is not gonna look like everybody else's story, so just ride the wave, right? And learn from what either mistakes or challenges, just that's all you can do, and just try to pivot um until you get where you want to get.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

Yeah, great advice, great advice. So at the end of every episode with my guest, I have three closing questions. So my first one to you, Maria, is what does the unbreakable advantage mean to you?

SPEAKER_01 33:23

The unbreakable advantage just means refrain the the way you think, don't give up. Stay true to yourself and just learn from all your experience.

SPEAKER_02 33:37

Yes, love it. And what did you have to let go of to become who you are today?

SPEAKER_01 33:47

I think you have to let go of the noise, right? Everybody telling you what they think or how things should be. Um, you just have to let go of that, and you kind of have to just ride your journey. It's it's your journey, it's your story. Don't let anybody tell you how that should go or what you should be doing.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

That is so beautiful. I talk about that a lot. It's one thing when our own voice won't be quiet, but when we have so many other things coming at us as well, especially from people who love and care about us, it can get very confusing very quickly. And then you're not really sure if you should be listening to your voice, God's voice, their voice, what that looks like, sounds like that's really good advice. And what do you still need to let go of to become who you want to be tomorrow?

SPEAKER_01 34:41

I think definitely negative thoughts, right? Sometimes, um, you know, we're our worst, uh we're our worst of what do you call that? Our worst critics. Enemies, yeah. We're we're worse. Like even me, like I'm trying to lose weight and be healthy and go to the gym, and I've lost a lot of weight, and I should be proud of myself, and I should celebrate that, but for some reason I still nitpick at all these little things, and we have to stop doing that. We have to stop doing that to ourselves and celebrate the positives more than the negatives.

SPEAKER_02 35:23

I love that. So let go of the pursuit of perfection and respect and appreciate what we've already done for ourselves for the record. You are beautiful and you look you look amazing. So, Maria, if people wanted to work with you or find you and reach out, talk about your journey. I've wanted to share, um, share anything with you, where can they find you online, on socials?

SPEAKER_01 35:50

Yeah, so I'm heavily more on LinkedIn uh nowadays, but I do have my website, mariadenalai.com, where you can see everything I do. And you know, you could always make an appointment and we can talk, and you know, whatever I can do to help, I would be more than happy to help.

SPEAKER_02 36:09

I love that. For everyone listening, she's in South Florida, so if you have need, she's she's your lady. So, Maria, thank you so much for coming on, being vulnerable today, sharing your story. There are so many people out there who are gonna resonate with your journey. What you've been through is uh difficult, and also the way you persevered and made it through is absolutely remarkable. I really respect and admire you. And for everyone listening, she now has a three-year-old son, and he's he's her life. So she made it. It's good.

SPEAKER_01 36:42

Always wanted three, but my one is perfect, and I'm extremely grateful and appreciative for that one.

SPEAKER_02 36:49

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